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When people get pregnant, they will give up smoking, give up alcohol, give up coffee and soda, give up fondue and raw cheese, give up cold cuts and sushi, all because they have heard somewhere, from someone, that these things can be bad for the baby. They don’t know the research, haven’t looked at the studies, can’t talk about sample sizes and control groups. But their dedication to their future child’s safety is so strong, their caution is so overpowering, that they give up these things just in case. 

So it baffles me when those same people will insist on spanking their kids. 

Even when they are shown the research.

 Regardless of what the experts in the field say. 

No matter who says it. 

Or how it is said. 

People are so invested in this ability to hit their kids without judgement or consequence, that it absolutely confounds me. 

I’m sorry but there’s nothing wrong with spanking???

I literally listed several sources about how, yes, there is.

Anyway. No it’s not.

“An analysis of 50 years of research showed no evidence that spanking does any good for children; instead, it increases their risk of detrimental outcomes.

Experts at the University of Michigan and University of Texas looked at decades of research from 75 studies involving more than 160,000 children, who showed increased signs of aggression, mental health problems and cognitive difficulties.

Spanking children to correct misbehavior is a widespread practice by many parents, yet one shrouded in debate about its effectiveness and appropriateness.

“Our analysis focuses on what most Americans would recognize as spanking and not on potentially abusive behaviors,” said Elizabeth Gershoff, associate professor of human development and family sciences at the University of Texas.

“We found that spanking was associated with unintended detrimental outcomes and was not associated with more immediate or long-term compliance, which are parents’ intended outcomes when they discipline their children.”

Shut the fuck up and don’t hit kids.

I was spanked and I’m fine? I’m not saying fucking smack your kid in the head but spanking their butt is fine??

Read the links I posted. Then read them again. Then stop advocating that people hit their children.

I’m sorry your parents hit YOU, and you’re allowed to feel however you want about that, but your feelings don’t make it effective, good, or ethical to hit kids.

Yo learn to read dumb ass. I said I turned out fine.

You say you were spanked, and turned out fine.

I say I was spanked and, in part to things I can directly associate with being spanked, did not turn out fine.

That would mean our two personal experiences cancel one another out, yes? So that, in turn, leaves the scientific research of actual professionals.

What does that research say?

/pulls out megaphone

YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCES DO NOT INVALIDATE EXTENSIVE SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH

AN EXCEPTION DOES NOT DISPROVE THE RULE, THAT IS LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE OF HOW THAT FUCKING SAYING GOES

CONGRATULATIONS IF YOU TURNED OUT FINE, THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT IS A GOOD IDEA FOR OTHER PARENTS TO HIT THEIR CHILDREN. IT DOES NOT EVEN MEAN THAT THE ODDS OF HITTING A CHILD WITHOUT CAUSING THEM SIGNIFICANT TRAUMA ARE GOOD ODDS! IT JUST MEANS YOU, PERSONALLY, BEAT THOSE ODDS.

BUT WHY THE **FUCK** DOES ANYONE THINK KIDS’ MENTAL HEALTH IS A GOOD THING TO GAMBLE WITH, EXACTLY???

not sure ‘my parents hit me and now i want to hit my kids’ means ‘i turned out fine’ tbh

Research is great, untill it isn’t. I’ve watched parents who discipline (not abuse) their kids including spanking and those who don’t. Every adult is different. Every kid is different. Some form of discipline is needed. In my experience, parents who spank tend to fall into the category of applying discipline. Parents who don’t discipline tend not to spank. The undisciplined kids have way more issues than those that are disciplined. As to which types of discipline work best, again, it’s dependent on the adult and child. Each is unique. My oldest would not respond to being scolded when he was little. All the different techniques did not work for keeping him out of the street. Spanking did work though. I don’t care what your study says, if it’s a choice between my son getting run over or staying safe, his butt is getting spanked. My second son didn’t need spanked to stay out of the street. I did what worked. Each case, each incident must be evaluated individually. You owe your kid that. If you aren’t willing to do that, you shouldn’t be a parent.

No child benefits from being hit. No child is better off because their parents hit them. No child, no matter how unique, should he hit.

There are ways to have discipline and rules and consequences without being hit.